After watching the movie (The Dark Knight) I had a conversation with my friend about the Joker character. My friend states that this Joker (Heath Ledger) is a sort of a copycat, who tries to imitate the Joker (Jack Nicolson), that he is just a follower. I don't think it's true but please, share Your opinions about this topic. Regards

if your friend was right (which he isn't) that would be the same as saying jack nicholson is a copycat of the joker(ceaser romero) from the adam west 60s batman tv show,heaths joker was a complete nutter stand and fight not scared of batman where as nicholsons joker was a not funny scared of batman joke of a psycho,just watch both nicholsons performance then watch heaths, or does your friend mean that heaths joker character wasn't the real joker but that the dark knight and batman begins were just prequels to the batman movie with nicholson?

From what my friend says appears that The Dark Night is what comes next after the times of Jack Nicolson Joker's reign. In his view, the original Joker (Nicolson) died, and Ledger's Joker is "one of those" (copycats). My friend made some comparisons between the mentioned Jokers. Nicolson's Joker fell into the acid what made his skin white and gave him the weird smile. Ledger's Joker explains how he got the scars on his mouth (i.e. cut by his father) and that he paints his face white, so he can't be the same Joker.

if your friend was right which he isn't it would mean nicholsons joker is also a copycat of the 60s tv joker from the adam west batman series.the dark knight is part of a retelling of the batman mythos (which has been retold several times in comic books with a new back story for the characters) when reinventing the joker the writers(christopher nolan and his brother) wanted to do there own version of the characters and the story of the joker and the acid had been done so a new reason for his apperance was written,there will always be comparisons i.e the white face,the green hair and the smile but that is just how the joker looks in every version from tv series,animated,comics and movies,if your friend was right and the dark knight is a sequel of batman why is james gordon a police commisioner (i.e commisioner gordon) in the movie with nicholsons joker yet in the dark knight he is liutenant gordon and doesn't become commisioner gordon till nearly the end of the movie,also why is there no mention of there being another joker (in the dark knight) who was killed.go back and watch batman begins and all will be clear.

I agree with You kriskaos, that's exactly what i told my friend. Today I'm going to watch 1989's Batman and Batman Returns :). Regards

no problem,any other questions on batman of any kind i.e movies,tv,animated or comics just ask or pm me.

if your friend was right which he isn't it would mean nicholsons joker is also a copycat of the 60s tv joker from the adam west batman series.the dark knight is part of a retelling of the batman mythos (which has been retold several times in comic books with a new back story for the characters) when reinventing the joker the writers(christopher nolan and his brother) wanted to do there own version of the characters and the story of the joker and the acid had been done so a new reason for his apperance was written,there will always be comparisons i.e the white face,the green hair and the smile but that is just how the joker looks in every version from tv series,animated,comics and movies,if your friend was right and the dark knight is a sequel of batman why is james gordon a police commisioner (i.e commisioner gordon) in the movie with nicholsons joker yet in the dark knight he is liutenant gordon and doesn't become commisioner gordon till nearly the end of the movie,also why is there no mention of there being another joker (in the dark knight) who was killed.go back and watch batman begins and all will be clear.

Spot on here :) You basically said what I was going to say.

Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are set in the *early* days of Batman, so how could Heath Ledger's Joker possibly be a copycat of the real Joker? And also, as Kriskaos pointed out, there would of course be some mention of him not being the real Joker in the film.

In my opinion, Heath Ledger's Joker was much better than Nicolson's, so in my mind Ledger's Joker is a much more real version.

No, they're completely different.

I think compared to the 60's Joker, the two are sort of similar. But other than that, I think Heath Ledger's preformance as the Joker was much different than the Jack Nicholson Joker. But I can't say any more without copying what kriskaos said though.

I don't think Heath's performance as the Joker is a "copycat" of Nicholson's Joker at all. Heath's performance is unforgettable.

Asking this question is almost like asking if Christian Bale's batman is the same as Val Vilmer's batman or previous batmans.

no way, ledger definatly took it to a much differant level in his bloody, murderous, pshycotic mind game. The original joker (Nicholson) cared only about power. but Ledger's joker didn't want any thing but to watch the under world of gotham tear itself and the rest of gotham apart. Pshycotic!

i agree with u....

i agree with ur opinion.....

i agree...

I'm sorry to ask but do you guys read Batman comic?
Heath's performance was good if he was playing a crazy killer but not the joker. I really hate chris nolan for portraying the joker. Why the F*#k can't he just follow the joker from the killing joke comic. The one with a green hair & chalk white skin. Instead he makes the joker looks like a drug addict working as a clown trying to get his fix. For me jack nicholson will always be the best joker.

Just wish everytime they make a movie out of a comic character they would stick to original story and character.:mad:

Please bring tim burton to direct the next batman movie.
@ chris nolan & joel schumacher : F%#k U for f%#king up Batman

he was a method actor but he used a lot of the graphic novels to create his version of the joker

He played the role well and did his own thing to prepare for it. In a way I would say that he was copying previous Jokers but then again he was playing a role dome by others.

Actully ,i dun agree with ur friends ......he knows what he is doing

Sorry for breaking in to this,
but I like the Joker from the Dark Knight.
Heath did it very well, much better than Jack N.

I'm sorry to ask but do you guys read Batman comic?
Heath's performance was good if he was playing a crazy killer but not the joker. I really hate chris nolan for portraying the joker. Why the F*#k can't he just follow the joker from the killing joke comic. The one with a green hair & chalk white skin. Instead he makes the joker looks like a drug addict working as a clown trying to get his fix. For me jack nicholson will always be the best joker.

Just wish everytime they make a movie out of a comic character they would stick to original story and character.:mad:

Please bring tim burton to direct the next batman movie.
@ chris nolan & joel schumacher : F%#k U for f%#king up Batman
You'd be taken more seriously if you sighted any examples with bearings in reality.

First of all, green hair in TDK? Check. SO, what are you talking about?

Secondly. Chalk white skin? Well, Nolan opted for "warpaint", an artistic choice I personally feel offers more realism than his skin actually being so white. So sure, that one's debatable. I'm cool with what he did though. It's easier to swallow in the real world.

But, your entire argument falls to pieces when you claim Nicholson and Burton did Joker more justice. You clearly don't know what you're talking about if you really believe this. Reread The Killing Joke and tell me Nicholson's (though extremely enteraining) Joker could possibly be related to that one. Heath forever, dude. If you're gonna hate on a superartist, let's see some intelligence. Yeah, I'm mad now. Grrrr! Hahahaha.

bravo null,at last another true batman fan to back up or be backed up by.

They are copycat in way they portray one role which is joker.The difference comes to each actor's personality and way of act.Knowing all of them are really good actors and they perfectly did being a joker.

They are copycat in way they portray one role which is joker.The difference comes to each actor's personality and way of act.Knowing all of them are really good actors and they perfectly did being a joker.
...... Huh?